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03-27-2012, 11:33 AM
(03-27-2012, 11:22 AM)ninJAS Wrote: I like this set better than bulk up simply because it allows for REALLY good coverage from a very strong Pokemon.

The only thing you have to be able to do to run this set effectively is you have to be able to predict when your opponent will make a switch to a counter Pokemon, whether is be a Flying, Psychic, or Ghost type to take a resisted Drain Punch. Really gotta watch out for Ghosts though since they don't care about Conkeldurr's STAB Fighting moves and can KO him with a strong special attack....so you have to be able to predict that switch in very good in order to KO them with Payback on the switch Tongue

You're right, but yeah Ghosts don't care and can take him out. I would try to change one of Sableye's moves to a powerful Ghost-type attack to be an effective Ghost buffer for Conkeldurr. So, I'd replace Night Shade with Shadow Ball.

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03-27-2012, 12:13 PM (This post was last modified: 03-27-2012, 12:14 PM by ninJAS.)
Sableye isn't meant to be an attacker though...it is used to deal consistent damage and to hinder the opponent....

I am actually considering changing Jirachi's set around as well to something that I don't think I've ever seen being used competitively Tongue just wanna give it a try though before I make anything final.... Gonna look something like this:


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Cosmic Power
Wish
Charge Beam
Flash Cannon

Obviously no one ever sees anything like this on Jirachi but I really wanna try it out. Use Wish and Cosmic Power until your defenses are maxed out give Jirachi near impenetrable defenses. Follow up with Charge Beam which has 100% of a sp Att boost thanks to Serene Grace then attack anything that resists or is immune to Charge Beam with a STAB Flash Cannon after max sp att.....like I said this is just a set I would like to try and use....not even sure if it will work like I hope it does but there is only one way to find out Tongue

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03-27-2012, 12:16 PM
(03-27-2012, 12:13 PM)ninJAS Wrote: Sableye isn't meant to be an attacker though...it is used to deal consistent damage and to hinder the opponent....

I am actually considering changing Jirachi's set around as well to something that I don't think I've ever seen being used competitively Tongue just wanna give it a try though before I make anything final.... Gonna look something like this:


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Timid @ Leftovers @ Serene Grace
252 hp, 128 def, 128 sp def

Cosmic Power
Wish
Charge Beam
Flash Cannon

Obviously no one ever sees anything like this on Jirachi but I really wanna try it out. Use Wish and Cosmic Power until your defenses are maxed out give Jirachi near impenetrable defenses. Follow up with Charge Beam which has 100% of a sp Att boost thanks to Serene Grace then attack anything that resists or is immune to Charge Beam with a STAB Flash Cannon after max sp att.....like I said this is just a set I would like to try and use....not even sure if it will work like I hope it does but there is only one way to find out Tongue

That set may work, it may not. Try it out and see if it could work, it sounds like it's going to take a long time to set up, so it may not be worth it...

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03-27-2012, 12:28 PM
Yea I'm well aware that it will take a while to set up Tongue but it more or less is a purely defensive Calm Mind set. It adds bulk to both defenses rather than just one which increases its survivability....and really the sp att boosts aren't nessicary but I figured even just one boost could come in handy when you need to switch from defense to attack in a hurry Tongue but like you said...never know how a set will work until you try it out XD so later I will probable test it on PO....if I can find some free time anyway

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03-27-2012, 12:32 PM
(03-27-2012, 12:28 PM)ninJAS Wrote: Yea I'm well aware that it will take a while to set up Tongue but it more or less is a purely defensive Calm Mind set. It adds bulk to both defenses rather than just one which increases its survivability....and really the sp att boosts aren't nessicary but I figured even just one boost could come in handy when you need to switch from defense to attack in a hurry Tongue but like you said...never know how a set will work until you try it out XD so later I will probable test it on PO....if I can find some free time anyway

Yeah, you never know what's going to happen until you go through with it. It may be an unstoppable wall, or it could blow up in your face.

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03-27-2012, 02:11 PM (This post was last modified: 03-27-2012, 02:13 PM by Oscar Wilde.)
Very few ghost types will be able to KO Conk outright, thanks to his huge Hp base. However he still somewhat fears the 2hko shadow ball from specs Gengar. And he will always lose to a Dragonite/Tornadus' Hurricane and Psychic from Psychic type pokemon.

Unforunately after 2 bulk ups, Conk loses the drain punch war with bulk up Scrafty, so make sure it comes out immediately after spotting the breakdancing ghetto gecko.

Again, you have the gliscor problem. I suggest Stab Water moves with pokemon not weak to ground/ice.
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03-27-2012, 02:24 PM (This post was last modified: 03-27-2012, 02:25 PM by ninJAS.)
Hmm so you thinking that I should replace Tentacruel with something else?? What about Starmie then? It's fast and strong, can still spin, and use Ice Beam to KO Gliscor.

Also the Jirachi set I was trying out hasn't worked very well so far :/ I keep running into landorus who has an insane Att and quakes me to death -_-

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03-27-2012, 02:26 PM
Yes.

It also gets Nat Rest/ Recover. + boltbeam.

I like starmie a fair bit.
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03-27-2012, 02:34 PM
Lol I like it pretty good too Tongue and I honestly completely forgot about it until right then XD so I'll probably replace Tentacruel with Starmie

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03-27-2012, 03:07 PM
Starmie's a wickedly good Pokemon to use. High Sp. Atk and can also be shaped to have high Attack, in this case, to help take down Gliscor.

Although, you can make Starmie two-pronged since a powerful Water-type attack or Ice-type attack can take a Gliscor down.

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